Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity Chapter 10:- On Human Gambling(Based on an Original Concept by Arc)

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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:43 pm

Indeed, the guard might be a little tired or nervous. She thinks that being armed and armoured will protect her. But she as no idea that she is being stalked in the shadows, by a woman more skilled than she. One hand over the mouth, followed by the pinch its all over. The poor woman is then dragged into the shadows to be stripped. The best thing she can lose is her dignity, the worse her job. The infiltrator as neutralised her as a threat, and has her uniform as a suitable disguise. A perfect infiltration, and an excellent scene.
Indeed. And I love that description "One hand over the mouth, followed by the pinch its all over. The poor woman is then dragged into the shadows to be stripped." Perfect scene. Quick and super effective. She never stood a chance.

I also love "but she as no idea that she is being stalked in the shadows, by a woman more skilled than she." Indeed, the guard is just some ordinary woman doing her job. She has no chance against the skilled intruder.
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meditions142 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:47 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:43 pm

Indeed, the guard might be a little tired or nervous. She thinks that being armed and armoured will protect her. But she as no idea that she is being stalked in the shadows, by a woman more skilled than she. One hand over the mouth, followed by the pinch its all over. The poor woman is then dragged into the shadows to be stripped. The best thing she can lose is her dignity, the worse her job. The infiltrator as neutralised her as a threat, and has her uniform as a suitable disguise. A perfect infiltration, and an excellent scene.
Indeed. And I love that description "One hand over the mouth, followed by the pinch its all over. The poor woman is then dragged into the shadows to be stripped." Perfect scene. Quick and super effective. She never stood a chance.

I also love "but she as no idea that she is being stalked in the shadows, by a woman more skilled than she." Indeed, the guard is just some ordinary woman doing her job. She has no chance against the skilled intruder.

I think a scene like that is what we call on the USB, a Holy Grail scene. It's what makes nerve pinches so effective against the unprepared. The woman as no time to defend herself, she's standing there with her neck exposed. She's pretty to boot. The uniform is a sure fit, one pinch later from our sexy infiltrator and she's tied up, naked and out of commission.


And I think that's what we love the most about pretty mook level girls, like Darkwatch girls or low level MiB personell like Samantha or Carmen. They are just ordinary women, doing their jobs. Whether guarding a door for an evil organisation or clerical work for the MiB, these girls are just doing their jobs. Then along comes the SI or Ellana, and they end up finishing their shift naked. Waking up in the most unusual( and uncomfortable) of places.
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:47 am
I think a scene like that is what we call on the USB, a Holy Grail scene. It's what makes nerve pinches so effective against the unprepared. The woman as no time to defend herself, she's standing there with her neck exposed. She's pretty to boot. The uniform is a sure fit, one pinch later from our sexy infiltrator and she's tied up, naked and out of commission.

And I think that's what we love the most about pretty mook level girls, like Darkwatch girls or low level MiB personell like Samantha or Carmen. They are just ordinary women, doing their jobs. Whether guarding a door for an evil organisation or clerical work for the MiB, these girls are just doing their jobs. Then along comes the SI or Ellana, and they end up finishing their shift naked. Waking up in the most unusual( and uncomfortable) of places.
Perfect description and why I love these scenes so much. As you say "it's what makes nerve pinches so effective against the unprepared. The woman has no time to defend herself, she's standing there with her neck exposed." Love to imagine a pretty female sentry standing at her post totally unaware as an infiltrator slips up behind. Then with just a skilled pinch to the right spot on her neck and she is taken care of.

And indeed "they are just ordinary women, doing their jobs". Exactly the way I like to imagine it. That is why I think two of my favorite characters you created were Michaela and Liesel from The Last Holdout. They were just two cute local girls who happened to take a job. They were no match for the intruders who needed to get past them and get their uniforms.
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meditions142 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:07 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:47 am
I think a scene like that is what we call on the USB, a Holy Grail scene. It's what makes nerve pinches so effective against the unprepared. The woman as no time to defend herself, she's standing there with her neck exposed. She's pretty to boot. The uniform is a sure fit, one pinch later from our sexy infiltrator and she's tied up, naked and out of commission.

And I think that's what we love the most about pretty mook level girls, like Darkwatch girls or low level MiB personell like Samantha or Carmen. They are just ordinary women, doing their jobs. Whether guarding a door for an evil organisation or clerical work for the MiB, these girls are just doing their jobs. Then along comes the SI or Ellana, and they end up finishing their shift naked. Waking up in the most unusual( and uncomfortable) of places.
Perfect description and why I love these scenes so much. As you say "it's what makes nerve pinches so effective against the unprepared. The woman has no time to defend herself, she's standing there with her neck exposed." Love to imagine a pretty female sentry standing at her post totally unaware as an infiltrator slips up behind. Then with just a skilled pinch to the right spot on her neck and she is taken care of.

And indeed "they are just ordinary women, doing their jobs". Exactly the way I like to imagine it. That is why I think two of my favorite characters you created were Michaela and Liesel from The Last Holdout. They were just two cute local girls who happened to take a job. They were no match for the intruders who needed to get past them and get their uniforms.

Me too, it's one of the most titillating things of USB. The build up. It's arguably the most important part of any good USB scene. We introduce a pretty character (a guard, nurse, maid or random civilian etc) then an infiltrator who needs her clothes. We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl, we either see the takeout or don't. Hopefully we will see the aftermath. We have all three in one scene, then we have the Holy Grail.

Three of my favourite scenes with good build up are the cultist in Conan, the Nurse in Exorcist 3 and the Nurse in counterstrike. The first has great build up, we have no idea if the girl is dead or alive, but we can imagine the aftermath. In Exorcist 3, we have the build up with the sexy nurse still in uniform, then the old girl climbing across the wall, and finally the discovery with the poor dead nurse in her panties. No takeout but it was fatal. And finally the nurse in Counterstrike we get all three, build up, takeout and aftermath, a rare scene in mainstream media. They were all ordinary women, who were taken out by more skilled (or demonically possesed) women rather quickly. How I would love to see a Holy Grail scene with a nerve pinch takedown.

Also a special mention to that unfortunate cute blonde waitress in that Turkish series. That had a great buildup and a fantastic takeout, that I think probably was lethal.


Yeah, I remember Michaela and Liesel. I have a little soft spot for them myself. I have been meaning to reread my past stories, but have been busy with Ellana. I agree that they are among my best characters I have written, even though they have very brief scenes. In particular I enjoyed writing their exchange before Nadja and Miranda took them out. It just underpinned how out of their depth they were. Darkwatch just gave them a uniform, shoved guns in their hands and said "Guard this." They didn't expect to wind up naked sleeping in bushes for the rest of the night.


I do miss my Darkwatch sentries. They were the epitome of the innocent, cute mook level guards that always fail. Although, they may return whenever I get back to Squad 1's adventures. My two favourite sentries have to be Siobahn and Annabelle. The two star crossed lovers, who made good in the SI.
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:31 pm
Me too, it's one of the most titillating things of USB. The build up. It's arguably the most important part of any good USB scene. We introduce a pretty character (a guard, nurse, maid or random civilian etc) then an infiltrator who needs her clothes. We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl, we either see the takeout or don't. Hopefully we will see the aftermath. We have all three in one scene, then we have the Holy Grail.

Three of my favourite scenes with good build up are the cultist in Conan, the Nurse in Exorcist 3 and the Nurse in counterstrike. The first has great build up, we have no idea if the girl is dead or alive, but we can imagine the aftermath. In Exorcist 3, we have the build up with the sexy nurse still in uniform, then the old girl climbing across the wall, and finally the discovery with the poor dead nurse in her panties. No takeout but it was fatal. And finally the nurse in Counterstrike we get all three, build up, takeout and aftermath, a rare scene in mainstream media. They were all ordinary women, who were taken out by more skilled (or demonically possesed) women rather quickly. How I would love to see a Holy Grail scene with a nerve pinch takedown.

Also a special mention to that unfortunate cute blonde waitress in that Turkish series. That had a great buildup and a fantastic takeout, that I think probably was lethal.


Yeah, I remember Michaela and Liesel. I have a little soft spot for them myself. I have been meaning to reread my past stories, but have been busy with Ellana. I agree that they are among my best characters I have written, even though they have very brief scenes. In particular I enjoyed writing their exchange before Nadja and Miranda took them out. It just underpinned how out of their depth they were. Darkwatch just gave them a uniform, shoved guns in their hands and said "Guard this." They didn't expect to wind up naked sleeping in bushes for the rest of the night.


I do miss my Darkwatch sentries. They were the epitome of the innocent, cute mook level guards that always fail. Although, they may return whenever I get back to Squad 1's adventures. My two favourite sentries have to be Siobahn and Annabelle. The two star crossed lovers, who made good in the SI.
Yea, that Turkish waitress scene is one of my all time favorites. First off, I thought the waitress was super cute. And it has great set up. Still have never been able to figure out if it was lethal or not. Could have been supposed to be a neck snap but at the same time I think it could have been meant to be a pressure point knock out.

Indeed, "'they were the epitome of the innocent, cute mook level guards that always fail." The Darkwatch sentries were fantastic that way. Although it was not one of the sneak up scenarios I also really loved the take out of Holly in To Free a Nightingale. Holly is armed and on guard but she is easily tricked by Vesper who then easily subdues her, shoves her against the wall and then knocks her out with a pinch to her Vagus nerve. Holly was completely outmatched.

"We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl". Do love that kind of build up. While it was obviously not a uniform steal scene (if it had been it would have been too good to be believe) one of in my opinion the greatest mainstream scenes ever was the scene from the Star Trek episode "A Piece of the Action". Great scene of Spock sneaking up behind a pretty female radio station technician. The woman remains oblivious until the last moment when she stands and starts to look behind her perhaps sensing a presence. However, before she can fully look behind her Spock gives her the pinch.

Had that scene been a female Vulcan who then took her clothes it would have been beyond amazing.

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meditions142 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:53 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:31 pm
Me too, it's one of the most titillating things of USB. The build up. It's arguably the most important part of any good USB scene. We introduce a pretty character (a guard, nurse, maid or random civilian etc) then an infiltrator who needs her clothes. We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl, we either see the takeout or don't. Hopefully we will see the aftermath. We have all three in one scene, then we have the Holy Grail.

Three of my favourite scenes with good build up are the cultist in Conan, the Nurse in Exorcist 3 and the Nurse in counterstrike. The first has great build up, we have no idea if the girl is dead or alive, but we can imagine the aftermath. In Exorcist 3, we have the build up with the sexy nurse still in uniform, then the old girl climbing across the wall, and finally the discovery with the poor dead nurse in her panties. No takeout but it was fatal. And finally the nurse in Counterstrike we get all three, build up, takeout and aftermath, a rare scene in mainstream media. They were all ordinary women, who were taken out by more skilled (or demonically possesed) women rather quickly. How I would love to see a Holy Grail scene with a nerve pinch takedown.

Also a special mention to that unfortunate cute blonde waitress in that Turkish series. That had a great buildup and a fantastic takeout, that I think probably was lethal.


Yeah, I remember Michaela and Liesel. I have a little soft spot for them myself. I have been meaning to reread my past stories, but have been busy with Ellana. I agree that they are among my best characters I have written, even though they have very brief scenes. In particular I enjoyed writing their exchange before Nadja and Miranda took them out. It just underpinned how out of their depth they were. Darkwatch just gave them a uniform, shoved guns in their hands and said "Guard this." They didn't expect to wind up naked sleeping in bushes for the rest of the night.


I do miss my Darkwatch sentries. They were the epitome of the innocent, cute mook level guards that always fail. Although, they may return whenever I get back to Squad 1's adventures. My two favourite sentries have to be Siobahn and Annabelle. The two star crossed lovers, who made good in the SI.
Yea, that Turkish waitress scene is one of my all time favorites. First off, I thought the waitress was super cute. And it has great set up. Still have never been able to figure out if it was lethal or not. Could have been supposed to be a neck snap but at the same time I think it could have been meant to be a pressure point knock out.

Indeed, "'they were the epitome of the innocent, cute mook level guards that always fail." The Darkwatch sentries were fantastic that way. Although it was not one of the sneak up scenarios I also really loved the take out of Holly in To Free a Nightingale. Holly is armed and on guard but she is easily tricked by Vesper who then easily subdues her, shoves her against the wall and then knocks her out with a pinch to her Vagus nerve. Holly was completely outmatched.

"We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl". Do love that kind of build up. While it was obviously not a uniform steal scene (if it had been it would have been too good to be believe) one of in my opinion the greatest mainstream scenes ever was the scene from the Star Trek episode "A Piece of the Action". Great scene of Spock sneaking up behind a pretty female radio station technician. The woman remains oblivious until the last moment when she stands and starts to look behind her perhaps sensing a presence. However, before she can fully look behind her Spock gives her the pinch.

Had that scene been a female Vulcan who then took her clothes it would have been beyond amazing.

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I agree. It was like the writers didn't know what they wanted to happen to that poor waitress. Which explains why it looks so ambiguous. I think in the end its left to our own interpretation. Like you I still don't know exactly what method she used on that waitress. I'am inclined to go with neck snap because A. There's nothing to tie her up with , so the infiltrator made a tactical decision. B. A quick takedown, so she couldn't call for help. C. She needed the girls uniform, to complete her mission. For that she needed to be removed, so she wouldn't cause future problems. The assassin believed her expendable. Either way, a case could be made for both scenarios. Its more likely to be lethal, to fit in with the tone of the episode.


Yeah, I have fond memories of corporal Holly and Vespers sexy take out. I think that remains arguably my favourite all time Darkwatch takeout for the season 2 arc. I picture Vesper mimicking the Lieutenant Greene's voice, Holly comes in expecting another order but all she gets is face time with Vesper and its off to the Land of Nod. Next thing Holly knows, she's tied up naked with the Lieutenant, back to back. Poor Holly wasn't trained to deal with that outcome.



I definitely need to catch that one again. While I thought I saw all the reruns of TOS on CBS, I never caught that episode. But that does sound like an excellent takeout scene. If only Spock had been a woman or say Sub Commander T'Pol from Enterprise. I could definitely picture that scene, it sounds fantastic.


I agree and now you mention it, that would be an excellent one shot story idea. And I would be happy to add it to the list. It would make nice change of pace for a starfleet to do the stealing. I can just picture, T'Pol or a Vulcan officer creeping up behind the pretty technician just as you described. She begins to turn but it's too late. The Vulcan gives her the neck pinch. Then she flips open the communicator. "Captain. Lieutenant T'Pol here. I have neutralised the human technician." She starts to caress the woman's collar. "I have an idea. I will take her clothes, disguise as her. That should allow you to beam in the away team." She starts to unbutton the woman's uniform. "What about binds, Lieutenant?" She unzips her uniform from the back. "Negative. She will be out for 5 hours. Spock can confirm that." She takes off her uniform, now naked. "What about those ears, Lieutenant." The officer takes off the woman's cap. " She was wearing a hat." She puts it on her head. "Signing off, Captain. I have a disguise to conduct." We then have the stripping scene, then the Lieutenant drags her naked body off to a handy cupboard.
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:28 pm
I agree and now you mention it, that would be an excellent one shot story idea. And I would be happy to add it to the list. It would make nice change of pace for a starfleet to do the stealing. I can just picture, T'Pol or a Vulcan officer creeping up behind the pretty technician just as you described. She begins to turn but it's too late. The Vulcan gives her the neck pinch. Then she flips open the communicator. "Captain. Lieutenant T'Pol here. I have neutralised the human technician." She starts to caress the woman's collar. "I have an idea. I will take her clothes, disguise as her. That should allow you to beam in the away team." She starts to unbutton the woman's uniform. "What about binds, Lieutenant?" She unzips her uniform from the back. "Negative. She will be out for 5 hours. Spock can confirm that." She takes off her uniform, now naked. "What about those ears, Lieutenant." The officer takes off the woman's cap. " She was wearing a hat." She puts it on her head. "Signing off, Captain. I have a disguise to conduct." We then have the stripping scene, then the Lieutenant drags her naked body off to a handy cupboard.
Wow. That would be one amazing scene!
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meditions142 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:39 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:28 pm
I agree and now you mention it, that would be an excellent one shot story idea. And I would be happy to add it to the list. It would make nice change of pace for a starfleet to do the stealing. I can just picture, T'Pol or a Vulcan officer creeping up behind the pretty technician just as you described. She begins to turn but it's too late. The Vulcan gives her the neck pinch. Then she flips open the communicator. "Captain. Lieutenant T'Pol here. I have neutralised the human technician." She starts to caress the woman's collar. "I have an idea. I will take her clothes, disguise as her. That should allow you to beam in the away team." She starts to unbutton the woman's uniform. "What about binds, Lieutenant?" She unzips her uniform from the back. "Negative. She will be out for 5 hours. Spock can confirm that." She takes off her uniform, now naked. "What about those ears, Lieutenant." The officer takes off the woman's cap. " She was wearing a hat." She puts it on her head. "Signing off, Captain. I have a disguise to conduct." We then have the stripping scene, then the Lieutenant drags her naked body off to a handy cupboard.
Wow. That would be one amazing scene!

Definitely. I will add that to the list. I will see if I can't find the scene for a little context( plus the uniform) , then create a little backstory. Introduce the character (for a little fun and going against trope, make her a red shirt ;) ) give a reason for being there. She gets beamed into the cupboard behind the pretty technician and the fun begins. ;)
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:31 pm
Me too, it's one of the most titillating things of USB. The build up. It's arguably the most important part of any good USB scene. We introduce a pretty character (a guard, nurse, maid or random civilian etc) then an infiltrator who needs her clothes. We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl, we either see the takeout or don't. Hopefully we will see the aftermath. We have all three in one scene, then we have the Holy Grail.

Yeah, I remember Michaela and Liesel. I have a little soft spot for them myself. I have been meaning to reread my past stories, but have been busy with Ellana. I agree that they are among my best characters I have written, even though they have very brief scenes. In particular I enjoyed writing their exchange before Nadja and Miranda took them out. It just underpinned how out of their depth they were. Darkwatch just gave them a uniform, shoved guns in their hands and said "Guard this." They didn't expect to wind up naked sleeping in bushes for the rest of the night.
Indeed, I really, really like a good build up. That was what made the Michaela and Liesel scene so spectacular. The build up was great. Not only the great discussion between Michaela and Liesel themselves but also the way Nadja and Miranda discussed their appearance, which one of them would become which sentry using the mimic gun and how they would take them out. All the while Michaela and Liesel have no idea they are being watched our talked about by the intruders (even though Liesel is nervous it could happen).

Something about the build up of the oblivious targets not knowing they are being watched and sized up is a great build up in my mind. Michaela and Liesel have no idea they were being stalked until they feel the pinch on their necks, electricity course through their bodies, they become aroused and then they are put in a deep sleep.
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meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:44 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:31 pm
Me too, it's one of the most titillating things of USB. The build up. It's arguably the most important part of any good USB scene. We introduce a pretty character (a guard, nurse, maid or random civilian etc) then an infiltrator who needs her clothes. We see our infiltrator creeping up on the unsuspecting girl, we either see the takeout or don't. Hopefully we will see the aftermath. We have all three in one scene, then we have the Holy Grail.

Yeah, I remember Michaela and Liesel. I have a little soft spot for them myself. I have been meaning to reread my past stories, but have been busy with Ellana. I agree that they are among my best characters I have written, even though they have very brief scenes. In particular I enjoyed writing their exchange before Nadja and Miranda took them out. It just underpinned how out of their depth they were. Darkwatch just gave them a uniform, shoved guns in their hands and said "Guard this." They didn't expect to wind up naked sleeping in bushes for the rest of the night.
Indeed, I really, really like a good build up. That was what made the Michaela and Liesel scene so spectacular. The build up was great. Not only the great discussion between Michaela and Liesel themselves but also the way Nadja and Miranda discussed their appearance, which one of them would become which sentry using the mimic gun and how they would take them out. All the while Michaela and Liesel have no idea they are being watched our talked about by the intruders (even though Liesel is nervous it could happen).

Something about the build up of the oblivious targets not knowing they are being watched and sized up is a great build up in my mind. Michaela and Liesel have no idea they were being stalked until they feel the pinch on their necks, electricity course through their bodies, they become aroused and then they are put in a deep sleep.


I know what you mean my friend. After I was doing a little work on Ellana's White House Trip, I reread The Last Holdout and I'am still pleased with how it turned out. The whole scene that just came to me at the time, is timeless and gets better everytime one reads it. The two conversations were a great contrast. You have Miranda and Nadja, doing what they do best, sizing up Michaela and Liesel like they were in a clothes store. Very experienced operatives who love their jobs. Then you have the jittery sentries, who have heard the stories but don't believe. They are just dumb local hires, no match for our duo. You just know that something was going to happen to them. That build up just made what came next all the more rewarding.


I agree. A quick infiltration and disguise is good as it shows the skill of the woman, who thinks on her feet. Like Ellana,, for example. But for me a great build up is what it's all about. And it's an essential part of the USB experience, for me. My two favourite Darkwatch scenes are this one and the scene in End of Watch, where you have Catherine and Emeline. Who like our unfortunate Germans, are inexperienced and have also heard the stories but don't quite believe them. They are are swiftly ambushed, given the shock glove treatment and stripped by Cristina and Carmen, who just a moment before where picking them out whilst talking with the rest of SOG 6. The two girls spend the night naked in a dumpster with their 4 other colleagues, nice and cosy. ;)
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