Taking down the Monteleones: The Carnival Masquarade

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simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:46 pm fair enough my apologies in terms of the organization are the victims compensated and why havent the police investigated yet


Don't worry you are actually rising a very good point. Victims are compensated (though not in a direct way, but the Organization makes sure that they still get to keep their job and even provide them with psycological help if needed), I was thinking of addressing that in the future.
However, this is not done out of kindness: in the past, the Organization didn’t really care about it's victims. After all, they are a top secret organization, and they are out of reach to the police and the world 's governament. But even the most top-secret organization can be in truble if world's governaments start to actively look for them. In particular, if the governanents were to take special precautions to tackle the Organization’s main tool: infiltration throught uniforms stealing. The truth is, they were slowly getting chocken out of business.
Here enters the Agreement. While it is in the best interests of the Organization to have the governments on their good side, for the governments the Organization can be a tool. Sometimes, they need to have some documents or recordings to bust a criminal. Sometimes it's a more personal favour. Fact is, most of the words polices agree to not directly go against the organization and to close an eye on crimes such as assault or unlawful restraint as long as the results on the victim aren’t permanent, government installations and politicians aren’t targeted and the Organization does a favour or two to said goverments for free or for a very low sum. In the end, it’s very good for making money. And making money is what the Organization is about.

Regarding some points raised by pc, the Organization tends to rely heavily on uniform stealings mostly out of habit, and as a way to train in the field their operatives. It forces them to costantly be forced to "impersonate" someone, and for this reason to have each infiltration feel like a "real" one, one which was absolutely necessary to the mission. It’s a bit like your Elder scroll exemple in a way: to an operative, it must be normal to steal clothes from someone and impersonate her, as it's part of their training! I will actually write a story which will show the effects of this mentality in Jane’s mind.


I know somethings make little sense: some of them will be explained, other serve to characterize the Organization, an enourmous corporation which basically is very rigid in how it works and sometimes absurd, but always effective.

Still, I hope that this has cleared some doubts, still, if you want, feel free to ask me anything else, and, always if you want , I'll write some entirely lore releated texts.

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Arc, many thanks for being here, welcome on board

I love everything, ESPECIALLY the rhythm and the excessive number of victims ( clothes donors), so don't stop, I want more girls tied up :D

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Roberta, Italian Rail Service ( "Ferrovie dello Stato " )

PS Simon, in Italy, which happens to be my Country, the Police doesn't investigate, NEVER, in every crime committed, if the thief doesn't forget her/his ID papers on the crime scene the case is considered too difficult to solve , you know surely Italian investigators aren't Sherlock Holmes guys- not even close :roll:
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esercito sconfitto wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:50 pm Arc, many thanks for being here, welcome on board

I love everything, ESPECIALLY the rhythm and the excessive number of victims ( clothes donors), so don't stop, I want more girls tied up :D

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Letizia, Italian Rail Service ( "Ferrovie dello Stato " )

PS Simon, in Italy, which happens to be my Country, the Police doens't investigate, NEVER, in every crime committed, if the thief doesn't leave her/his ID papers on the crime scene the case is considered too difficult to solve , you know surely Italian investigators aren't Sherlock Holmes guys- not even close :roll:
Thank you very much esercito! Your support means a lot to me! And if you liked the rythm and the number of disguises, I think you'll love my second-next story!
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do the organization contact the authorities post mission to let them know where the victims are such as the two rail employees in the closet and the three students in the bin
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simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:02 pm do the organization contact the authorities post mission to let them know where the victims are such as the two rail employees in the closet and the three students in the bin
They do. Usually by anonimous call or by directly informing some contacts in the local police. However, most of the times they are discovered before the mission's end. ( For exemple, for the rail workers being replaced in the morning and the mission ending in the evening, it’s very likely they had already been discovered
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maybe you could show an example of them being found and also needing some therapy.... it would be fascinating ...how are they subdued some are karate chopped but some of them are still awake so how are they subdued ie the rail employees
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simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:38 pm maybe you could show an example of them being found and also needing some therapy.... it would be fascinating ...how are they subdued some are karate chopped but some of them are still awake so how are they subdued ie the rail employees
In the future I will try to write an exemple of that, thank you very much! Regarding the rail workers, I sometimes like to leave it a bit open: they could have been rendered unconcious and have already woken up, or maybe even be subdued without them losing conciousness
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maybe a future usb scene where you describe them being subdued without being knocked out
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Arc wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:08 pm
simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:02 pm do the organization contact the authorities post mission to let them know where the victims are such as the two rail employees in the closet and the three students in the bin
They do. Usually by anonimous call or by directly informing some contacts in the local police. However, most of the times they are discovered before the mission's end. ( For exemple, for the rail workers being replaced in the morning and the mission ending in the evening, it’s very likely they had already been discovered
Sometimes, I really feel that you people who like 'non lethal' are really hypocritical.
It's like a Nazi submarine attacking a British transport ship, arguing that 'it wasn't our machine guns that killed those crew members, it was the cold waters of the Atlantic.'
Although you did not directly kill the victim, you still put them in a dangerous situation.
For example, suffocation caused by blocked mouth and difficulty breathing.
For example, drowning in accumulated water in the trash can.
For example, it was not found by the Sanitation worker, but was dumped into the Garbage truck with the garbage to be crushed.
If you really care about the human rights of the victims, then you should hire a tailor to make you a uniform. Instead of pretending to improve the living conditions in the concentration camps and then telling yourself that you are a good person.
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simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:44 pm maybe a future usb scene where you describe them being subdued without being knocked out
Of course Simon
pc305435632 wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 4:23 am
Arc wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:08 pm
simon4242 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:02 pm do the organization contact the authorities post mission to let them know where the victims are such as the two rail employees in the closet and the three students in the bin
They do. Usually by anonimous call or by directly informing some contacts in the local police. However, most of the times they are discovered before the mission's end. ( For exemple, for the rail workers being replaced in the morning and the mission ending in the evening, it’s very likely they had already been discovered
Sometimes, I really feel that you people who like 'non lethal' are really hypocritical.
It's like a Nazi submarine attacking a British transport ship, arguing that 'it wasn't our machine guns that killed those crew members, it was the cold waters of the Atlantic.'
Although you did not directly kill the victim, you still put them in a dangerous situation.
For example, suffocation caused by blocked mouth and difficulty breathing.
For example, drowning in accumulated water in the trash can.
For example, it was not found by the Sanitation worker, but was dumped into the Garbage truck with the garbage to be crushed.
If you really care about the human rights of the victims, then you should hire a tailor to make you a uniform. Instead of pretending to improve the living conditions in the concentration camps and then telling yourself that you are a good person.
I know that it may sound hypocritical to you because, well, it is. The Organization is hypocritical. While there are some operatives who actually care about their victims, the Organization itself only cares about making money, simply because that’s the point of the Organization. They signal the victims just to avoid as much accidental deaths as possible. Actually making sure that the victims don’t loose their jobs and providing them with psycological support.

It's not exactly like the Nazi submarine exemple but it still is hypocritical. There is still risk for the victim. Of your exemple, only the first is valid, as the trash bin in Venice was empty and was in a side road were a garbage truck with crusher cannot go throught, but still there is a risk, and the Organization, simply doesn’t really care.

While thus far ( since the Agreement) there haven’t been deaths, it could still happen. And the organization, as it's currently structured, would probably sanction the operative and call it a day.

I hope I've made myself clear,
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