Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 2 On Human Dining(Based on an Original Concept by Arc )
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Is it also called the Ionian nerve grip?
https://youtu.be/xOFrFt5gKFw?si=T33gCicM8ZlX8_41
https://youtu.be/xOFrFt5gKFw?si=T33gCicM8ZlX8_41
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That's just so funny, thanks Void.Void99 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:29 pm Is it also called the Ionian nerve grip?
https://youtu.be/xOFrFt5gKFw?si=T33gCicM8ZlX8_41

But it's the good old Zenobian nerve pinch and Ellana's kiss is called the Shifters Embrace.

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Okay definitely liking the concept. Interesting that Kremm needs to hold back or would he end up killing the women he pinches. So Kremm skillfully just applies the lightest pinch his anatomy allows yet a woman he uses it on is easily rendered unconscious.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:18 pm
The pinch itself would be painful for humans, but for a mere second until they are knocked out. Even the lightest pinch, which is what Kremm administered, is enough to.give the women sore necks when they awake. Kremm showed a lot of restraint, had he administered the full pinch then the women would be dead from crushed throats.
Love the picture the scene. Kremm sneaks up on his intended victim. He pinches her neck. She lets out a brief cry of pain as she winces. Her eyes then roll back, her eyelids close and she slumps to the ground unconscious with a moan. While she will awake with a sore neck, at least Kremm allowed her to live.
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meditions142 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:17 pmOkay definitely liking the concept. Interesting that Kremm needs to hold back or would he end up killing the women he pinches. So Kremm skillfully just applies the lightest pinch his anatomy allows yet a woman he uses it on is easily rendered unconscious.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:18 pm
The pinch itself would be painful for humans, but for a mere second until they are knocked out. Even the lightest pinch, which is what Kremm administered, is enough to.give the women sore necks when they awake. Kremm showed a lot of restraint, had he administered the full pinch then the women would be dead from crushed throats.
Love the picture the scene. Kremm sneaks up on his intended victim. He pinches her neck. She lets out a brief cry of pain as she winces. Her eyes then roll back, her eyelids close and she slumps to the ground unconscious with a moan. While she will awake with a sore neck, at least Kremm allowed her to live.
Yep, before they touched down Ellana ordered Kremm to use non lethal force on the humans for a number of reasons. The main one being that as this an exploratory science mission, Ellana doesn't want dead humans as this would void any research she does and negate any future interactions with the human race. The other being that Ellana is essentially a good natured person, and a scientist so she as respect for humanity. As the story unfolds, she will eventually find love with one human in particular but this will take time.
Kremm is more than happy to fellow Ellana's command, since he wants to impress her and doesn't want to disappoint her. He as a little crush on her after all.

It's definitely a sexy scene to picture, with Kremm picking out a suitable candidate for Ellana to replace so she can escape and continue her misson. And he will always be there for Ellana, even though she may not appreciate it at first she will come to realise she can't do without him.
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Love the idea. The information about Kremm's pinch is so much fun. It really explains his comment "I gave her a little pinch on her neck, she went down far too easily like a bad hand at Garlacc. These humans are too fragile."Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:30 pm
Yep, before they touched down Ellana ordered Kremm to use non lethal force on the humans for a number of reasons.
Indeed the pinch he used was the least powerful he could use. Yet the women he used it on were knocked out with ease.
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meditions142 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:10 pmLove the idea. The information about Kremm's pinch is so much fun. It really explains his comment "I gave her a little pinch on her neck, she went down far too easily like a bad hand at Garlacc. These humans are too fragile."Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:30 pm
Yep, before they touched down Ellana ordered Kremm to use non lethal force on the humans for a number of reasons.
Indeed the pinch he used was the least powerful he could use. Yet the women he used it on were knocked out with ease.
I'am glad to hear that. I think Kremm was a little disappointed, since he is a veteran of quite a few battles. He got promotion to Ellana's bodyguard a couple of years back, following exemplary service in the last war Zenobia fought. He expected humans to be a little more challenging.

I think Kremm is definitely an unsung hero, who puts his targets down with the least invasive method possible with tremendous skill.
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Hi.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:37 pmThat's just so funny, thanks Void.Void99 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:29 pm Is it also called the Ionian nerve grip?
https://youtu.be/xOFrFt5gKFw?si=T33gCicM8ZlX8_41![]()
But it's the good old Zenobian nerve pinch and Ellana's kiss is called the Shifters Embrace.![]()
Sorry about that, I was literally 2 minutes away from needing to be back on sight from a work break and did not type it out fully.
I was thinking of the "neck pinch" in general. Seen you use the term a few times before.
For many years I never understood the line in that clip "I'll render you unconscious using the Ionian nerve grip". But then goes on to say "there is no such thing as an Ionian nerve grip".
I assume the nerve grip is just another term for "neck pinch" ?
Did this knock out technique originate from Star Trek? I have never watched an episode or movie all the way through but do remember something like it from a scene in one of the films. Someone on a bus or train has it done to him for being too loud and disruptive or something. I think it was Star Trek anyway.
But it's a fictional/myth technique in the real world isn't it? Similar to chloroform....or at least chloroform is in reality a terrible method to KO someone. From what I read the victim would need to be fully exposed to and inhaling the fumes for at least FIVE MINUTES before losing consciousness ....and could also potentially be fatal or leave the victim with with very serious skin and throat burns. Far removed from what we see in fetish videos or TV shows/movies where its shown as a quick takedown method!
I'm not really up to speed on what is real and whats just myth when it comes to these things. They make for good stories though!
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Void99 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:33 pmHi.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:37 pmThat's just so funny, thanks Void.Void99 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:29 pm Is it also called the Ionian nerve grip?
https://youtu.be/xOFrFt5gKFw?si=T33gCicM8ZlX8_41![]()
But it's the good old Zenobian nerve pinch and Ellana's kiss is called the Shifters Embrace.![]()
Sorry about that, I was literally 2 minutes away from needing to be back on sight from a work break and did not type it out fully.
I was thinking of the "neck pinch" in general. Seen you use the term a few times before.
For many years I never understood the line in that clip "I'll render you unconscious using the Ionian nerve grip". But then goes on to say "there is no such thing as an Ionian nerve grip".
I assume the nerve grip is just another term for "neck pinch" ?
Did this knock out technique originate from Star Trek? I have never watched an episode or movie all the way through but do remember something like it from a scene in one of the films. Someone on a bus or train has it done to him for being too loud and disruptive or something. I think it was Star Trek anyway.
But it's a fictional/myth technique in the real world isn't it? Similar to chloroform....or at least chloroform is in reality a terrible method to KO someone. From what I read the victim would need to be fully exposed to and inhaling the fumes for at least FIVE MINUTES before losing consciousness ....and could also potentially be fatal or leave the victim with with very serious skin and throat burns. Far removed from what we see in fetish videos or TV shows/movies where its shown as a quick takedown method!
I'm not really up to speed on what is real and whats just myth when it comes to these things. They make for good stories though!
It's alright my friend, no worries.
Now I think about it the nerve/neck pinch takedown was first featured on Star Trek. I mean this is where I first remember it from. Of course, it became the classic Vulcan Neck Pinch that we all now and love seeing Spock use to great effect. I remember that scene it was from Star Trek IV. Spock and Kirk are on a bus, Spock asks this punk kid to switch off his radio. The kid being an obnoxious arsehole turns it up and gives Spock the finger. Big mistake! Spock gives the punk a little pinch and its nap time! He even gets a round of applause.
That's true but we should never let real life get away of our fantasy because real life sucks.
To us on the USB, neck pinches are sexy and work instantly. Chloroform works with a snap of our fingers and the woman us out like a light allowing our infiltrators to strip them, steal their clothes/uniforms and leave them them either tied up in their underwear or naked. And that's the best part. They make for terrific stories.

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That is what to me is so intriguing about Kremm. Because of his superior strength, when he attacks a woman it would actually be easier to just kill her. However, he uses his great skill to use the least power he can use. What is funny about it is that even though it is the absolute minimum power he can use it still knocks the woman out for four hours.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:25 pm
I think Kremm is definitely an unsung hero, who puts his targets down with the least invasive method possible with tremendous skill.
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meditions142 wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:34 amThat is what to me is so intriguing about Kremm. Because of his superior strength, when he attacks a woman it would actually be easier to just kill her. However, he uses his great skill to use the least power he can use. What is funny about it is that even though it is the absolute minimum power he can use it still knocks the woman out for four hours.Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:25 pm
I think Kremm is definitely an unsung hero, who puts his targets down with the least invasive method possible with tremendous skill.
He is certainly an intriguing character, and a vital part of Ellana's long term mission. The Zenobian Military holds personal honour above all. As the human women are no direct threat to him or the princess and unarmed, non-lethal actions are warranted, Kremm sticks to his warrior code no murder of civilians. They have to be neutralised, temporarily, so Ellana can continue her work and the scientific process maintained.
Kremm, being an highly trained decorated soldier knows his own strength and just how little pressure he needs to apply to knock out a human female for four hours, without causing long term damage. Plus, there is that part of him that wants to impress Ellana with his skill. He doesn't want to disappoint her, since as a scientist and a good natured princess Ellana abhors killing.