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Greetings everyone.

I would like to say that I'm concerned with the sudden proliferation of AI content on the forum and what this means for writers like myself and artists like cuccut.

Some of you may have read my comments to artdodge about his recent posting of AI "writing". I wish to make it clear that I wasn't trying to insult him but merely raising my objections to the use of AI on the forum. If my words offended him then I'm sorry and I meant no offense.

While AI is a tool to used and a good one at that, it shouldn't be used as a crutch or as a means to write stories and pass them off as your own work, when they were created by a tool. The same goes with pictures and clips produced. It should be labelled as AI generated and posted on a separate sub-forum.

I think a deep and frank discussion about AI and it's place on the forum is needed.

Yes, a separate section for AI content is a perfect idea.
My cousin Dan has worked in the film industry in Hollywood for about 30 years.
It is a threat to writers, actors, voice actors and possibly more.
Also, I'm a former artist, who went to art college and spent more hours drawing and writing since the late 70's than I can ever count.
I enjoyed drawing and writing my own comics. I never claimed to be the next John Byrne, Neal Adams, George Perez or Jim Lee, but it was my passion of decades.
As a creative person, it bothers me, like Stormtrooper, anybody can create a "soulless" story with the few keystrokes.
I do understand somebody might have an idea for a story, but can't write, so they use AI as a tool to convey that story.
However, this story shouldn't be presented as "original".
Anyhow, just make an AI section. That'd be cool.
Guys, remember this board is a haven from the outside world for us all.

darth chlorophorm 2 wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:41 pm Yes, a separate section for AI content is a perfect idea.
My cousin Dan has worked in the film industry in Hollywood for about 30 years.
It is a threat to writers, actors, voice actors and possibly more.
Also, I'm a former artist, who went to art college and spent more hours drawing and writing since the late 70's than I can ever count.
I enjoyed drawing and writing my own comics. I never claimed to be the next John Byrne, Neal Adams, George Perez or Jim Lee, but it was my passion of decades.
As a creative person, it bothers me, like Stormtrooper, anybody can create a "soulless" story with the few keystrokes.
I do understand somebody might have an idea for a story, but can't write, so they use AI as a tool to convey that story.
However, this story shouldn't be presented as "original".
Anyhow, just make an AI section. That'd be cool.
Guys, remember this board is a haven from the outside world for us all.

Thank you Darth, I appreciate your support. Having that separate section for AI content will allow the forum to maintain a balance between genuine art and that created by AI. While being inclusive and still being that refuge for all of us from the outside world, and still valuing the work done by the writers and artists on the board.

I'll agree that the idea has its merits, and I believe it's possible to implement it on the Pictures section by simply creating a subforum under the "From Pixiv" one, something like "AI Pictures" - though I don't quite think moderators can do that. Since the biggest number of AI content which is uploaded comes from pictures generated by people outside the board, I believe this is the section in which the idea is the most relelvant, and it'd be an easy way to put concerns to rest.
For the Artworks section, I don't think so: This section is organized by board members names. It wouldn't be fair to ask people to upload the pictures on a subforum that is not theirs. For the Stories section, the AI content is so scarce I don't quite think a specific Subforum is relevant - plus just like the Artworks one, it's organized by board member names.

However, I - and I believe other moderators with me - also won't ignore the fact that said issue began with yet another pointless fight. A fight which began with a word like "garbage" being used to designate a content which was uploaded by a board member. You said you didn't want to insult anybody. As an outside observer, I can confirm that yes, this did come off as insulting towards artdodge. And it's important to judge the outcome of one's actions, not the intent. We also won't ignore the context. Said fight took place after an other exchange at September 25th (viewtopic.php?t=11430) which was interpreted by several people - including an outside observer like myself - as borderline passive-aggressive at best. There are ways to voice one's objections and disagreement. These are not them.

Since the topic is "About AI...", I'll end the topic with a reminder of the rules:

AI-generated works are tolerated on the Board.

Key word here is "tolerated". We're not asking anyone to like AI-generated content. We're not even asking anyone to regard them as art. We're not even asking anyone to regard them as worthy of existence. Each person is entitled to their opinion. We however ask people to tolerate their presence, which means at the very least leaving alone the people who upload them.

The board members who upload AI-generated content have always been honest and upfront. They never attempted to hide the fact they used AI. They also never tried to use AI to steal the art styles and content of other board members. If one wants to get angry at AI, then they should save their rants for the big companies who develop them - not for the individuals who play with the toys they have at hand. Speaking of the downsides of AI on jobs and artists is irrelevant here - we're all basically volunteers sharing free content. People who use AI to upload USB content don't threaten anyone's work or livelyhood. I include the latest upload by artdodge, who explicitly mentioned in the very title it was an attempt playing around with Google AI, and then simply wanted to share the result with us. I'm not shocked he uploaded his content on the Board Members subforum of the story section, since he is a board member. As someone who has never been able to draw, who has always resented my inability to draw, and who has resorted to writing as the fall-back solution because it was the only way to share my content, I understand the people who use AI to live their dream of finally being able to bring their content to life.

The subject of AI has been discussed by the moderators when we laid down the new rules. We now have a few years of hindsight, and I can confidently say that AI didn't destroy the Board and hasn't become the only content uploaded on the Board - far from it. Sure, they're numerous, and kudos to the people who like them, but they are only a fraction of the content uploaded here. It is not AI that drives some people away from this Board. It's pointless fights, needless aggressivity, needless PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE comments, refusal to step down when a moderator asks to step down, and lack of feedback. Speaking from my personal experience, those are the things that make me question my willingness to put up with the Board. And there's also censorship by the big wigs in charge of Deviantart and the likes of course. But all these are topics for an other day and topic.

Well my post was not intended to set off a firestorm. For that I apologize, but I still stand by the AI process. I have no objections if the moderators want to set up an AI subforum for me to post in.

Hopplewite, you didn' t start the fire, it was an arsonist...

I agree with Rufus, the moderators stated that the AI is tolerated, and this is a rule

Defying rules, unceasingly breaking a rule of tolerance means facing a disciplinary response, period

No, I still believe that creating separate sub-forums or even a single sub-forum for all AI content is the way to go.

I mean we created an off topic sub-forum and that took no effort at all.

Creating a separate AI sub-forum (s) will please board contributors like myself and set our minds at ease. At the same time, AI contributors will feel valued and other members will have a chance to view AI content if they choose. Without arguments or misunderstandings breaking out.

It's the best chance for compromise and to keep the board a safe haven from the outside world for all of us.

artdodge wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 11:08 am Well my post was not intended to set off a firestorm. For that I apologize, but I still stand by the AI process. I have no objections if the moderators want to set up an AI subforum for me to post in.

Artdodge, I believe you did right by explicitly mentioning in your title that your content was made with AI. If anything, that may be a good compromise. If the title explicitly warns the content is AI-created then the people who don't care about AI can ignore them, but the corollary is that then nobody can go and critisize the fact it's AI - they were warned when clicking the link. The topic itself is worth giving it a thought as long as it's done in peace and quiet. If some people wish to avoid AI content, I believe we can take some time to think of a way to make their search easier. Either way, all the people involved have made their point clear. It's time to let the other moderators give their thoughts - preferably first on our specific section - and then we can make an announcement.

I agree with the idea of ​​creating a sub-forum dedicated to AI. This would clear up any misunderstandings. Personally, I have always mentioned in my posts that my various contents were created by AI. That being said, if the post mentions in its title that it was created by AI, people are informed, and nothing obliges people to click on the link.

Jesus Fucking Christ.......For those of us who want to post anything........and spend time doing so, why Fucking bother.....
With all the shit going down in the world right now !!!
This is supposed to be some kind of 'Private' escape........

'It isn't looking like it folks'

Its getting tiresome and endless..........I have drip fed for far too fucking long long

There is poison here......not goodwill and understanding