Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity Chapter 10:- On Human Gambling(Based on an Original Concept by Arc)

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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:14 pm
I know what you mean my friend. After I was doing a little work on Ellana's White House Trip, I reread The Last Holdout and I'am still pleased with how it turned out. The whole scene that just came to me at the time, is timeless and gets better everytime one reads it. The two conversations were a great contrast. You have Miranda and Nadja, doing what they do best, sizing up Michaela and Liesel like they were in a clothes store. Very experienced operatives who love their jobs. Then you have the jittery sentries, who have heard the stories but don't believe. They are just dumb local hires, no match for our duo. You just know that something was going to happen to them. That build up just made what came next all the more rewarding.


I agree. A quick infiltration and disguise is good as it shows the skill of the woman, who thinks on her feet. Like Ellana,, for example. But for me a great build up is what it's all about. And it's an essential part of the USB experience, for me. My two favourite Darkwatch scenes are this one and the scene in End of Watch, where you have Catherine and Emeline. Who like our unfortunate Germans, are inexperienced and have also heard the stories but don't quite believe them. They are are swiftly ambushed, given the shock glove treatment and stripped by Cristina and Carmen, who just a moment before where picking them out whilst talking with the rest of SOG 6. The two girls spend the night naked in a dumpster with their 4 other colleagues, nice and cosy. ;)

"They are just dumb local hires, no match for our duo. You just know that something was going to happen to them." That is what makes it so much fun. It is so easy and almost routine to Miranda and Nadja. They are almost casual about it shown by the way the take time for a make out session while standing over the unconscious bodies of Michaela and Liesel.

And indeed the Catherine and Emeline scene was amazing. I particularly loved how Emeline was actually thinking something like what happened to Holly was something she would like to happen to her and, then, as Christina says "Wish granted Chica".
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meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:29 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:14 pm
I know what you mean my friend. After I was doing a little work on Ellana's White House Trip, I reread The Last Holdout and I'am still pleased with how it turned out. The whole scene that just came to me at the time, is timeless and gets better everytime one reads it. The two conversations were a great contrast. You have Miranda and Nadja, doing what they do best, sizing up Michaela and Liesel like they were in a clothes store. Very experienced operatives who love their jobs. Then you have the jittery sentries, who have heard the stories but don't believe. They are just dumb local hires, no match for our duo. You just know that something was going to happen to them. That build up just made what came next all the more rewarding.


I agree. A quick infiltration and disguise is good as it shows the skill of the woman, who thinks on her feet. Like Ellana,, for example. But for me a great build up is what it's all about. And it's an essential part of the USB experience, for me. My two favourite Darkwatch scenes are this one and the scene in End of Watch, where you have Catherine and Emeline. Who like our unfortunate Germans, are inexperienced and have also heard the stories but don't quite believe them. They are are swiftly ambushed, given the shock glove treatment and stripped by Cristina and Carmen, who just a moment before where picking them out whilst talking with the rest of SOG 6. The two girls spend the night naked in a dumpster with their 4 other colleagues, nice and cosy. ;)

"They are just dumb local hires, no match for our duo. You just know that something was going to happen to them." That is what makes it so much fun. It is so easy and almost routine to Miranda and Nadja. They are almost casual about it shown by the way the take time for a make out session while standing over the unconscious bodies of Michaela and Liesel.

And indeed the Catherine and Emeline scene was amazing. I particularly loved how Emeline was actually thinking something like what happened to Holly was something she would like to happen to her and, then, as Christina says "Wish granted Chica".

That's what I have come love about Miranda and Nadja. The openess of their marriage and how they have been operatives for a long time. That the the acquisition of disguises and stripping fellow women, is something that they enjoy rather than just a job. I think that this casual behaviour and their love for each other that makes them so special. At the end of the day, they may not want to kill these girls but they are just uniforms to them. Targets for neutralisation that will allow them to complete their mission and get back home.


I remember that. It displayed just how sexually repressed Darkwatch sentries are and underpins they innocent naivety. It's why along with the Order Novices in the Blood series, they are my favourite creations.i will always have a soft spot for them. And that line from Cristina was just priceless. At least Emeline will wake up and have something exciting to tell her friends, during her SI group therapy session. :D
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:46 pm
At the end of the day, they may not want to kill these girls but they are just uniforms to them. Targets for neutralisation that will allow them to complete their mission and get back home.

That is what makes scenes when we get a little bit of information about the women as part of the buildup. We learn the women's names and something about them.

This is then contrasted by Nadja and Miranda not really caring about the women. As you say, to them they are nothing more than a obstacle to get past and a uniform and identity to steal. Of course regardless of not caring about the women, they of course don't mind checking out their bodies as part of the process.
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meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:58 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:46 pm
At the end of the day, they may not want to kill these girls but they are just uniforms to them. Targets for neutralisation that will allow them to complete their mission and get back home.

That is what makes scenes when we get a little bit of information about the women as part of the buildup. We learn the women's names and something about them.

This is then contrasted by Nadja and Miranda not really caring about the women. As you say, to them they are nothing more than a obstacle to get past and a uniform and identity to steal. Of course regardless of not caring about the women, they of course don't mind checking out their bodies as part of the process.

It's one of my favourite things to do when I'am writing. I love to give the victims(whether they are going to die horribly, or going to go sleepyland) identities and their own backstories. It heightens the build up. And in some cases makes the reader fall for them, like in the cases of Liesel/Michaela, Siobahn/ Annabelle and Catherine/Emeline. It's also a staple of Ellana's stories, that each individual is unique and as that one deepest darkest secret that Ellana through her kisses discovers.



To our heroines, the checking out of their victims is all part of the experience and helps their relationship to develop. As they see the women as little more than obstacles and even objects, this helps Miranda and Nadja do their jobs. And when the Veritas Serum was introduced, the couple experimented by having a three way make out with Mila, the naval cadet in Dinner in Sevastopol. Mixing business with pleasure, that is their trademark.
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Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:12 pm
As they see the women as little more than obstacles and even objects, this helps Miranda and Nadja do their jobs.
Indeed, one of the things I love is the detached way Nadja and Miranda talk about their victims with a bit of detachment. Like Miranda saying "Ok, let's get these two naked" as she begins to drag Michaela off. And then later says "Right, Nads. We will leave these two in the bushes. Squad 1 can pick them up when we make the call."

They show almost no care for the two women they have just knocked out and stripped. Again, just objects to deal with and use. Meanwhile poor Michaela and Liesel have had a powerful attack on them that has shut down most of their CNS. But no sympathy from Nadja and Miranda.
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meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:29 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:12 pm
As they see the women as little more than obstacles and even objects, this helps Miranda and Nadja do their jobs.
Indeed, one of the things I love is the detached way Nadja and Miranda talk about their victims with a bit of detachment. Like Miranda saying "Ok, let's get these two naked" as she begins to drag Michaela off. And then later says "Right, Nads. We will leave these two in the bushes. Squad 1 can pick them up when we make the call."

They show almost no care for the two women they have just knocked out and stripped. Again, just objects to deal with and use. Meanwhile poor Michaela and Liesel have had a powerful attack on them that has shut down most of their CNS. But no sympathy from Nadja and Miranda.

Indeed, they are all business showing complete clinical detachment from the sentries. Which is one aspect of their characters that makes them relatable and memorable. I think it stems from their own experiences as soldiers. They both went through traumatic experiences and had to kill to survive. Although in Miranda's case, she had seen actual combat and was decorated for courage. They certainly weren't born this way but their lives and service meant they became like they were. Miranda didn't start her career as a uniform stealer until she had mustered out and joined MI6, where she showed a strong level of detachment towards Franka the German beer maid. If I had to chose, Miranda exhibits more detachment then Nadja, despite Nadja being a reformed killer.


I think it's down to this psychology and early lives which make the duo show no sympathy or empathy towards their victims. Whether guard or civilian. To them only survival, the mission and staying together matters. It's a sort of "us against the world." Mentality. And poor sentries like Michaela and Liesel are just targets.
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Hi Stormtrooper. Just wondering...do you want your stories backed up? I can make a word pad database folder and send them to other members of the board who might also store them on an external device.

It's just you have a TON of work posted...and if anything happens to the board....all of it will be dust. Over a years worth!

Or have you already had this done by someone?
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Void99 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:27 am Hi Stormtrooper. Just wondering...do you want your stories backed up? I can make a word pad database folder and send them to other members of the board who might also store them on an external device.

It's just you have a TON of work posted...and if anything happens to the board....all of it will be dust. Over a years worth!

Or have you already had this done by someone?
Hi Void

That's very generous of you, I would like that. I mean I have written so much over the course of the year and it would be shame if the worse were to happen(touch wood it doesn't) and I lose it all if anything does happen to the board. I'am quite attached to all my characters after all and proud of my contributions to the board.


By all means make that folder and send me a copy. I could store it on my phone or tablet using a SD card. I don't know anyone that could do that for me, my family isn't exactly tech savvy.


Thanks very much, my friend. I appreciate this.
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I had actually started. There are currently 9 pages to your sub forum ...I got down to halfway up page 4 (I'm going from 9 to 1). The file is only 7mb so far. Most of that file size is the JPEG images certain few stories are based on. Will carry on with it over the course of the week when I am home.
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Void99 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:06 pm I had actually started. There are currently 9 pages to your sub forum ...I got down to halfway up page 4 (I'm going from 9 to 1). The file is only 7mb so far. Most of that file size is the JPEG images certain few stories are based on. Will carry on with it over the course of the week when I am home.
Okay, sounds good. Thanks again Void. You work fast.


Honestly I was expecting the file size to be much higher then a mere 7mb. That just shows what I know :lol: .

I did base a few of the stories on images by certain artists but mostly its all original content.

The page size will increase soo, since I have nearly finished Ellana Chapter 12 pt1, which will posted by tonight and be starting Ch 12 Pt2 tomorrow.
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