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Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:05 pm
by meditions142
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:42 pm
Besides Ellana dislikes killing and respects non lethality.
Indeed. I get a funny feeling that on some level Ellana enjoyed watching Kremm knock Samantha out. As you noted "Ellana herself was in awe at the skill Kremm showed". Also, Ellana made the comment "A good use of the Nerve Pinch." I wonder if on some level Ellana gets a little aroused watching Kremm knocking out women.
I also do indeed like the little discussion between Ellana and Kremm. Even having Ellana kind of hurt Kremm's feeling and apologizing. It is such a fun scene that while they are having this conversation Samantha lays their unconscious and Ellana is stripping her.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:05 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:42 pm
Besides Ellana dislikes killing and respects non lethality.
Indeed. I get a funny feeling that on some level Ellana enjoyed watching Kremm knock Samantha out. As you noted "Ellana herself was in awe at the skill Kremm showed". Also, Ellana made the comment "A good use of the Nerve Pinch." I wonder if on some level Ellana gets a little aroused watching Kremm knocking out women.
I also do indeed like the little discussion between Ellana and Kremm. Even having Ellana kind of hurt Kremm's feeling and apologizing. It is such a fun scene that while they are having this conversation Samantha lays their unconscious and Ellana is stripping her.
It's interesting you should say that, because Zenobians don't have sex drives or get aroused in the same way as humans do. When they have sex, it's more from a stand point of its a biological imperative. Indeed, when they have sex Zenobian females knock out their mates during the act. So male Zenobians have evolved to not take pleasure in the act. But with Zenobian females, they do have lusts. Ellana did indeed feel some pleasure from seeing Kremm knock out Samantha, this does extend to when she kisses and assumes the forms of human women. I may have alluded to the fact, that she does find human women, particularly when they are naked pleasing to look at. And when she reads their minds, getting a snapshot of their lives, this only piques her interest. After all she enjoys her work,

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This aspect of her character is something that Arc and myself plan to expand on when we cover Love and Relationships. Where Ellana explores marriage(both same sex and Hetero) and the "One Night Stand". This will ultimately lead her to reconnect with Nikki and find out something special about herself. I won't spoil too much.
The relationship between Kremm and Ellana is quite a complex one, but fun. Kremm as you might have guessed is in love with the Princess, and is loyal to an absolute fault. Ellana however, isn't really interested but comes to value her bodyguard as a close friend who she owes a lot to. She values his integrity and skill. Even if she finds his quoting of Zenobian movie lines, irritating to the extreme.

Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:51 pm
by meditions142
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 pm
But with Zenobian females, they do have lusts. Ellana did indeed feel some pleasure from seeing Kremm knock out Samantha, this does extend to when she kisses and assumes the forms of human women. I may have alluded to the fact, that she does find human women, particularly when they are naked pleasing to look at. And when she reads their minds, getting a snapshot of their lives, this only piques her interest. After all she enjoys her work,

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I do find Ellana's process quite sexy. Unlike the other scenes where Ellana uses the kiss to knock the women out, here we have what I find to be a very sexy scenario. Ellana kissing Samantha after she has already been knocked out.
It is another really intriguing part of the stories. The way with her kiss she can read women's minds and then not only takes their clothing but also becomes them and for awhile and takes their entire identity. Not only does she appear as the women but since she absorbed their thoughts and memories she can act as them too (albeit still at times with some misunderstand).
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:10 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
meditions142 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:51 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 pm
But with Zenobian females, they do have lusts. Ellana did indeed feel some pleasure from seeing Kremm knock out Samantha, this does extend to when she kisses and assumes the forms of human women. I may have alluded to the fact, that she does find human women, particularly when they are naked pleasing to look at. And when she reads their minds, getting a snapshot of their lives, this only piques her interest. After all she enjoys her work,

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I do find Ellana's process quite sexy. Unlike the other scenes where Ellana uses the kiss to knock the women out, here we have what I find to be a very scenario. Ellana kissing Samantha after she has already been knocked out.
It is another really intriguing part of the stories. The way with her kiss she can read women's minds and then not only takes their clothing but only becomes them and for awhile takes their entire identity. Not only does she appear as the women but since she absorbed their thoughts and memories she can act as them too (albeit still at times with some misunderstand).
Thank you, my friend I'am glad to hear that. I also find these scenes with Ellana kissing unconscious women, to be very arousing myself. I had a lot of fun writing them.
One thing that Ellana will find out is that she cannot absorb much in the way of long term memories from a quick kiss. She can learn some interesting facts(After all, replacing just a few women Ellana learned all about female underwear...) and something completely fun and random that may or not be relevant to her current chapter. She also learns a lot of human interactions as well(ordering a cab, picking up luggage from an airport.) from absorbing memories or observation. She also learns languages from kissing the women as well. So once she replaces a French woman, she knows french etc.
Indeed, Ellana is constantly learning and refining her technique. Experimenting with the kiss in particular. Over the course of the next few chapters, you will get to see Ellana not just stealing the clothes and faces of the women but also their homes as well. As she effortlessly blends into the population of the places she visits, to stay one step ahead of the MiB.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:35 pm
by meditions142
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:10 pm
Indeed, Ellana is constantly learning and refining her technique. Experimenting with the kiss in particular. Over the course of the next few chapters, you will get to see Ellana not just stealing the clothes and faces of the women but also their homes as well. As she effortlessly blends into the population of the places she visits, to stay one step ahead of the MiB.
Interesting. It sounds like Ellana will be impersonating women for longer periods of time. This of course creates and interesting question. When Kremm uses the Zenobian Neck Pinch on a woman it sends her off to sleepyland for around four hours. I am not sure we ever learned how long the anesthetic in Ellana's saliva works. Perhaps it does last for a very long time. However, if it doesn't last a long time perhaps Ellana and Kremm will need to do something to keep the women asleep for an extended period.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:55 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
meditions142 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:35 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:10 pm
Indeed, Ellana is constantly learning and refining her technique. Experimenting with the kiss in particular. Over the course of the next few chapters, you will get to see Ellana not just stealing the clothes and faces of the women but also their homes as well. As she effortlessly blends into the population of the places she visits, to stay one step ahead of the MiB.
Interesting. It sounds like Ellana will be impersonating women for longer periods of time. This of course creates and interesting question. When Kremm uses the Zenobian Neck Pinch on a woman it sends her off to sleepyland for around four hours. I am not sure we ever learned how long the anesthetic in Ellana's saliva works. Perhaps it does last for a very long time. However, if it doesn't last a long time perhaps Ellana and Kremm will need to do something to keep the women asleep for an extended period.
Definitely, especially for periods up to 24 to 48 hours since when Ellana enters a new city she needs to replace a local, to gain knowledge of their language(if she doesn't yet know it), a base of operations to eat, sleep and plan her next move. She will also acquire their transportation to get around. Ellana will become more like a chameleon, and evading capture much more frequently.
Ellana's saliva has a special property in which it keeps a woman down for however long Ellana is her. So for example in Chapter 2, Ellana as assumed Carmen's form using it to escape. After 30 mins she emerges into the subway station, sees Peyton and grabs her. After kissing her, and becoming Peyton. But Carmen will still be unconscious in the ducts. When Ellana kisses Felicity, Peyton will wake up. The same can be said for the women in the story Night Shift. Their symptoms after waking when they all kissed Nikki, is what happens when they wake up. When say Carmen or Samantha are kissed by Ellana when they are unconscious, they will still be unconscious for 4 hours. They will still feel a little horny when they wake up.
For the longer periods of time, when Ellana becomes more sophisticated her anaesthetic saliva renders the women not just unconscious but in a state of suspended animation. So like a form of hibernation. This ensures the women don't die when she leaves them. Ellana will also release their restraints, when she is done with them and their home ready to move on.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:20 pm
by meditions142
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:55 pm
Ellana's saliva has a special property in which it keeps a woman down for however long Ellana is her. So for example in Chapter 2, Ellana as assumed Carmen's form using it to escape. After 30 mins she emerges into the subway station, sees Peyton and grabs her. After kissing her, and becoming Peyton. But Carmen will still be unconscious in the ducts. When Ellana kisses Felicity, Peyton will wake up. The same can be said for the women in the story Night Shift. Their symptoms after waking when they all kissed Nikki, is what happens when they wake up. When say Carmen or Samantha are kissed by Ellana when they are unconscious, they will still be unconscious for 4 hours. They will still feel a little horny when they wake up.
For the longer periods of time, when Ellana becomes more sophisticated her anaesthetic saliva renders the women not just unconscious but in a state of suspended animation. So like a form of hibernation. This ensures the women don't die when she leaves them. Ellana will also release their restraints, when she is done with them and their home ready to move on.
Very, very interesting. Yes indeed Carmen and Samantha would stay unconscious since in addition to the kiss Kremm had given them the pinch. Interesting however that when the women are put to sleep with just the kiss they wake up when Ellana is no longer in their form.
It is indeed also interesting that the women wake up horny. They apparently kiss the first person they see as Nikki found out.
And interesting that even though they will be out longer thanks to the pinch being used on them, Samantha and Carmen would be a little horny too. Hmm, I wonder what might have happened when they work up and found themselves concealed somewhere with a female guard.
Very intriguing too that Ellana is able to put women into a state of almost suspended animation. The Zenobians certainly have some fascinating abilities.
Looking forward to Ellana doing more and more with her kiss. However, hopefully we still will get to see Kremm use his pinch on plenty of women too.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:51 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
meditions142 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:20 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:55 pm
Ellana's saliva has a special property in which it keeps a woman down for however long Ellana is her. So for example in Chapter 2, Ellana as assumed Carmen's form using it to escape. After 30 mins she emerges into the subway station, sees Peyton and grabs her. After kissing her, and becoming Peyton. But Carmen will still be unconscious in the ducts. When Ellana kisses Felicity, Peyton will wake up. The same can be said for the women in the story Night Shift. Their symptoms after waking when they all kissed Nikki, is what happens when they wake up. When say Carmen or Samantha are kissed by Ellana when they are unconscious, they will still be unconscious for 4 hours. They will still feel a little horny when they wake up.
For the longer periods of time, when Ellana becomes more sophisticated her anaesthetic saliva renders the women not just unconscious but in a state of suspended animation. So like a form of hibernation. This ensures the women don't die when she leaves them. Ellana will also release their restraints, when she is done with them and their home ready to move on.
Very, very interesting. Yes indeed Carmen and Samantha would stay unconscious since in addition to the kiss Kremm had given them the pinch. Interesting however that when the women are put to sleep with just the kiss they wake up when Ellana is no longer in their form.
It is indeed also interesting that the women wake up horny. They apparently kiss the first person they see as Nikki found out.
And interesting that even though they will be out longer thanks to the pinch being used on them, Samantha and Carmen would be a little horny too. Hmm, I wonder what might have happened when they work up and found themselves concealed somewhere with a female guard.
Very intriguing too that Ellana is able to put women into a state of almost suspended animation. The Zenobians certainly have some fascinating abilities.
Looking forward to Ellana doing more and more with her kiss. However, hopefully we still will get to see Kremm use his pinch on plenty of women too.
I'am glad to hear that. It's like a sort of neural link she as between herself and the women she replaces. As long as they are alive and there is electrical signals from the brain, Ellana can stay as them for as long as she needs. All she needs is some of their DNA. So the duration varies. I will also explore the kiss further when Arc and I plan the Love and Relationships chapter, which will develop Ellana's character and that of Nikki as well.
The saliva from Zenobian females as a curious side effect on humans. Not only does it serve as an anaesthetic, but also a mild aphrodisiac. This is compounded in humans with our increased capacity for lust. With women it does make them very horny, so they will kiss the first person who discover. Regardless of gender or sexual preferences. However, this hasn't been tested on men...yet. So in Chapter 1 when Agent M said "You left us Agent V, very naked which was a nice sur-" before she was cut off by L, you can probably guess who got the kiss.
I can quite imagine that when Carmen and Samantha did wake up very naked next to a female guard, the very confused guard got a nice surprise when she woke up. And probably forgot to call it in for quite a while...
That they do. Both genders went down different evolutionary paths, with the males and their super strength able to defend the Star Kingdom. While the females relied on their level headedness, logical outside the box thinking and their subtlety. Using their mimetic abilities, along with their pheromones, which later evolved into shape-shifting (which was discovered completely by accident) the females gained a clear advantage in science, education and politics. Although, on Zenobia Prime they are banned from using their abilities on each other. Only XS members are permitted to use them, on newly discovered planets on their sabbacticos.
Ellana will have plenty of opportunity to use her kiss, in variety of different takedowns as she travels the world. And Kremm will be called upon again, to break his princess from prison using the Nerve Pinch. Whenever she gets captured again of course..
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:14 pm
by meditions142
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:51 pm
The saliva from Zenobian females as a curious side effect on humans. Not only does it serve as an anaesthetic, but also a mild aphrodisiac. This is compounded in humans with our increased capacity for lust. With women it does make them very horny, so they will kiss the first person who discover. Regardless of gender or sexual preferences.
And Kremm will be called upon again, to break his princess from prison using the Nerve Pinch. Whenever she gets captured again of course..
Indeed we have seen that between the pheromones and the saliva the women Ellana uses her abilities on definitely become aroused. We have seen that in a number of cases instead of resisting the women actually return the kiss briefly before they are put to sleep by the anesthetic.
Definitely looking forward to seeing Kremm use his pinch more. We have seen him use it repeatedly on MIB employees. Would love to see him use it on some women on the outside as well.
I still find it fascinating that even though the Zenobians don't have detailed knowledge of the human anatomy and therefore cannot target specific nerves Kremm is still able to so effortlessly knock women out with his pinch.
Re: Ellana's Cultural Studies on Humanity:- Chapter 4 On Human Mass Culture(Based on a Concept by Arc)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:36 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
meditions142 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:14 pm
Stormtrooper1990 wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:51 pm
The saliva from Zenobian females as a curious side effect on humans. Not only does it serve as an anaesthetic, but also a mild aphrodisiac. This is compounded in humans with our increased capacity for lust. With women it does make them very horny, so they will kiss the first person who discover. Regardless of gender or sexual preferences.
And Kremm will be called upon again, to break his princess from prison using the Nerve Pinch. Whenever she gets captured again of course..
Indeed we have seen that between the pheromones and the saliva the women Ellana uses her abilities on definitely become aroused. We have seen that in a number of cases instead of resisting the women actually return the kiss briefly before they are put to sleep by the anesthetic.
Definitely looking forward to seeing Kremm use his pinch more. We have seen him use it repeatedly on MIB employees. Would love to see him use it on some women on the outside as well.
I still find it fascinating that even though the Zenobians don't have detailed knowledge of the human anatomy and therefore cannot target specific nerves Kremm is still able to so effortlessly knock women out with his pinch.
There are times when Ellana will straight up kiss a woman to assume her form without the pheromones, especially when speed is of the essence. But both serve the purposes of rendering the women docile and lowering their inhibitions. So even straight women cannot resist her charms. Which is why in some cases they return the kiss, because of that aphrodisiac quality of Ellana's saliva. Or they may even want too.
The only problem there is that Kremm cannot shift himself, only Zenobian females can shift, besides Zenobian males don't like to use disguises, it goes against their warrior code(they basically leave it to the females). So Kremm on the outside would only draw a lot of attention Ellana's way, which would only get in the way of Ellana's mission. He cannot intervene or assist Ellana on the outside, only when her life is threatened. Or she needs a little extra help in escaping.
Rest assured, Kremm will be on hand to assist Ellana when she eventually will dedicate an entire chapter to the MiB itself. There will be plenty of opportunity for him to Neck Pinch a few MiB staffers and guards.
Despite Kremm not knowing anything about human anatomy, he is going off the baseline for other female's (Zenobians included ) from other races and applying what he already knows. Broadly speaking, human females and Zenobian females are similar but with different skin colour(different shades of pink) and a hair colours ranging from blue to purple. And with thanks to Ellana's book, the Zenobians will have all the knowledge they need on human anatomy, particularly on human females...