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Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:51 pm
by wyx46068061
If we cannot find common ground, at least we can be friendly to each other.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:59 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
wyx46068061 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:51 pm If we cannot find common ground, at least we can be friendly to each other.
Indeed and very well spoken. After all it was hatred and division that started the whole war in the first place and it's why it continues.

It's why I wrote this story. Not to glorify acts of terrorism but to express that ultimately conflict and hate destroys good people, preventing any common ground from being found. It's a lesson humanity should learn.

I'am sorry that some people may not see it like that.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:37 pm
by tirepanted3
I don't want to wade into another board controversy, especially considering how heated some of these discussions have gotten lately. But I really dislike how political the board has gotten as of late, and especially with regards to ongoing conflicts like the Israel-Hamas war, which is very real and very scary for many people in the Middle East.

Regardless of people's views on the war, I don't believe it is appropriate fodder for a story at USB, certainly not a story that revolves around a Hamas terrorist killing multiple people, including many thousands of civilians.

And to put it bluntly, I think this story does read like pro-Hamas fanfic, particularly the ending where an entire city of Israeli people is wiped out. Considering that several board members (myself included) have friends and family living in Israel, who have been profoundly shaken and scared since last year's attack, this content comes off as both callous and offensive.

I also understand that some writers like dealing with dark themes in their stories, but there are many ways to grapple with dark themes that don't capitalize on recent real-life tragedies that have let to thousands of innocent deaths. This is, after all, a forum primarily about uniform stealing - it is not meant to be a hotbed for geopolitical conflict. And trying to combine stories of women stealing uniforms with real-life terrorism - regardless of intention - serves to cheapen and make light of the terrorism.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:09 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
tirepanted3 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:37 pm I don't want to wade into another board controversy, especially considering how heated some of these discussions have gotten lately. But I really dislike how political the board has gotten as of late, and especially with regards to ongoing conflicts like the Israel-Hamas war, which is very real and very scary for many people in the Middle East.

Regardless of people's views on the war, I don't believe it is appropriate fodder for a story at USB, certainly not a story that revolves around a Hamas terrorist killing multiple people, including many thousands of civilians.

And to put it bluntly, I think this story does read like pro-Hamas fanfic, particularly the ending where an entire city of Israeli people is wiped out. Considering that several board members (myself included) have friends and family living in Israel, who have been profoundly shaken and scared since last year's attack, this content comes off as both callous and offensive.

I also understand that some writers like dealing with dark themes in their stories, but there are many ways to grapple with dark themes that don't capitalize on recent real-life tragedies that have let to thousands of innocent deaths. This is, after all, a forum primarily about uniform stealing - it is not meant to be a hotbed for geopolitical conflict. And trying to combine stories of women stealing uniforms with real-life terrorism - regardless of intention - serves to cheapen and make light of the terrorism.

Tirepanted


It seems like ES you've also missed the point. This wasn't about glorifying terrorism or even insulting any particular racial group. This is a USB story, pure and simple. I made it perfectly clear at the top of this story in my advisory that I apologise in advance if this story offends anyone and it's purpose wasn't to make light of terrorism. It stands as an anti-war piece.


I'am not seeking to capitalise on any recent tragedies but raise awareness of them and show my support for the innocent people, the children of Gaza and South Lebanon, who Israel is committing genocide upon. All in the name of "defending itself." The IDF has killed more people in a year then Hamas did during the attacks last year. And that's where the real tragedy lies. That both sides, think it's acceptable to put its own people in danger, just so they can carry on fighting.


But if you are like Esercito and think the wholesale murder of innocents by the IDF just to blow up one terrorist is acceptable, then I feel sorry for you.


I will never support the state of Israel, not in good conscience. Not after all they have done, not just to the middle east but crimes committed against British soldiers during the Gulf of Aden crisis.


I will continue to write and post my stories on this board, a community that i love. Whether they are about dark themes or otherwise. Whether you like it or not.

Rest assured, this will be the last time I will.delve into the murky world of current events. I will return instead to the 1950s, and the tumult of the cold war.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:55 pm
by simon4343
dear o dear we have an anti semite

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:04 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
simon4343 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:55 pm dear o dear we have an anti semite
And now you show up, Simon. Oh joy of joys.


That is such a weighted term. Just because I say that I don't support the fascist state of Israel, that automatically makes me an anti semite? Hogwash!

I despise the terrorists of Hamas just as much as them. I side with the innocent people of Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank, who everyone who as so far replied on this thread seems content to label as terrorists. Well tell that to a little girl who lost her legs and her parents after Israel bombed her apartment block.


If you ask any Jewish person in the UK, they will tell you that the state of Israel no more represents them as the Labour Party represents the British workforce.


But if want to get technical then I have no problem calling ES an islamaphobe.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:08 pm
by simon4343
you do know from the river to the sea really means dont you ..the eradication of the jewish state.....as for joy of joys ,you have somehow brought politics and your personal hatred in to this community .....way to go

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:21 pm
by Daveyjonesagain
Geez, you already knew this topic is controversial but you did it anyway. Then you say it's only about USB but follow up with a dozen rants about politics. This fits the established pattern of toxic behaviour that you've displayed these past few weeks and judging by your replies you have only become more belligerent and obnoxious. Are you going to have a drama outburst every week? If you're incapable of self-awareness or admitting when you are wrong then maybe you should start your own board and any members who want to interact with you can do so there.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:24 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
simon4343 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:08 pm you do know from the river to the sea really means dont you ..the eradication of the jewish state.....as for joy of joys ,you have somehow brought politics and your personal hatred in to this community .....way to go
Simon with all due respect, you dont know what youre talking about. You're just another keyboard warrior.


And FYI, I hope the Jewish people see sense and will vote someone in who won't turn the middle east into a crated wasteland. Littered with the bodies of both sides. Because it this isn't resolved and no one gets rid of Bibi Nethanyahu, that's what's going to happen. But that's over you head isn't it.

Re: Storm Shadow Down:- A USB Story

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:32 pm
by Stormtrooper1990
Daveyjonesagain wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:21 pm Geez, you already knew this topic is controversial but you did it anyway. Then you say it's only about USB but follow up with a dozen rants about politics. This fits the established pattern of toxic behaviour that you've displayed these past few weeks and judging by your replies you have only become more belligerent and obnoxious. Are you going to have a drama outburst every week? If you're incapable of self-awareness or admitting when you are wrong then maybe you should start your own board and any members who want to interact with you can do so there.

Daveyjones

I'am merely sticking up for myself while bullied
by a fascist moron and his little gang for expressing my opinion. And FYI I don't have a drama every week. I'am fully self aware thank you very much and I have nothing to apologise for because I have done nothing wrong.


If want to bury your head in the sand and side with a man who is quite clearly wrong and deranged, who believes Israel should "defend itself" by wiping out its neighbours then please don't let me stop you.

I'am entitled to my opinion, after all this is a democratic board. If you, ES or Tirepanted don't like it then that's your right to do so. If you don't like the story or it's content then don't read it, I won't force you to. That's why I put the disclaimer up, followed by the apology.


A good day to you.