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Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:23 pm
by meditions142
Wow Torreken, this is an epic, epic story. I do love the way each story could stand alone but tell an overall story. And love that you, as you said, put in a lot of cliches and tropes.
As you probably know from my other posts, guards are my favorite victim/uniform donors. Given this, you know I had to enjoy this!
Amazing saga. Given the gasses of the trucks at the end it sounds like at least 100 women ended up being knocked out with more maybe not being knocked out but at least having their uniforms stolen.
As for all the classic scenes, they are all there. In no particular order I will mention some I really, really enjoyed.
I thought it was particular fun that even though the agents were there to stop the real infiltrators, they still had to knock out two guards and steal their uniforms. Love the idea of dropping the sleeping gas bomb into the camera room to put the women the women to sleep. Then the idea of the women being left tied up together.
Also loved the idea of the reception desk take out. The intruders had already taken out other women to get their uniforms and then used the uniforms to trick the guards. Then loved the idea of the guards being hidden under the desk. And of course great idea that guards showing up for the next guard shift end up walking into a trap and being chloroformed. And love the exchange with the two replacement guards when they woke up: " Good morning, sweeties, I hope you feel good after your little snooze. Now, just be quiet in there and things will remain civil. Otherwise I will have to punish you like I did to your friend’. The raven-haired criminal giddily said, pointing to Eva’s dishevelled panties and red ass-cheeks. The two security guards meekly nodded. ‘Good girls’, their captor concluded, before closing the cabinet’s door again.
Another fun scene was that the attackers used the vibrator on Patricia. Love how Patricia goes from being angry to twitching with pleasure when it is turned on.
Also fun was the way Carol and Claire decided to pass the time. And then they even brought Bella into the fun.
Also enjoyed Victoria basically knocking herself out.
Also great concept of the intruders taking advantage of the guards arriving for the party and knocking them out as they arrive. I particularly enjoyed envisioning Maddison and Helen walking in, freezing in shock and then getting neck pinches to knock them out. Also love to picture the piles of guards after they all had been taken out.
Just such an amazing story! Thanks for posting.
Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:16 pm
by Torreken
rufusluciusivan wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:59 pm
Eight stories for the price of one. A good way to celebrate your return.
I love the concept. Of course, scenes written from the POV of the guards aren't unheard of on this board, but entire stories written from the POV of guards is new - or at least very very rare. (I don't recall one, though I suppose there probably is a few I didn't remember.)
This feels a bit like a "best-of" of guards-related USB situations. We get aftermaths, and guards being captured. We get guards in lockers, guards in a cabinet, guards under the reception desk, guards in a storage room, guards grabbed when they're at the end of the line, guards in toilet booths, guards bound together in a locker, guards bound together with one on the other's lap, guards piled up... Guards everywhere! Guards are not my favorite kind of damsel, but it's still fun. And for those who consider guards their favorites, this will probably be akin to a treat.
Always nice to see a lot of bondage and underwear-clad damsels.
(Sometimes the "sexual content" is a bit too explicit, but that's just me.)
Story 1 did a good job telling a uniform stealing ploy through the eyes of the first guard of the compound being mugged. I regret a little the story doesn't follow its gimmick all the way through - since we learn some information Juliette shouldn't know (the accurate description of Sgt Felicity Hayman and Pvt Micaela Bonucci's predicament) - because otherwise the one-shot did a good job keeping things from Juliette's limited POV, therefore she doesn't know much of the ploy's goal and watched powerlessly two of her colleagues neutralized before they could help her and her partner. Well, only a little, since we hear of two lovely trussed up military damsels

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Love the conversation between Penny and Amanda in Story 2 as they discuss what happened to them and why the events played out as they did.
Story 3: Of course there'd be a smoke break at one point...
Story 4: Guards arguing with each other (even gagged) surprisingly isn't a situation that popped up so often now that I think of it. Though I have to say, it leads to an interesting climax... A bit too explicit to my taste, but I won't deny it was an interesting development...
Story 5 made me realize there was still some connection between the stories. Loved the moment Bella realizes "Diaz" is an impostor.
Story 6: That meta comment about a guard commenting one should never be last of the line is perfection.
Story 7: Maybe features the best "dumb guard mistake" I've ever read - dropping the knock-out drug...
Story 8: The mandatory story which wraps up everything and shows the purpose of the entire operation. I loved the reveal it was one huge set-up by the Federals to capture the team of infiltrators.
Though Ursula herself managed to escape. I loved the concept that the two federal agents were able to watch everything throught the cameras, but unable to do anything.
Great story for your return to sum up.
Thanks a lot for your kind words and your thorough analysis! I do not remember reading a whole story from the POV of the victims, that is why I wanted to try this formula.
Story 1: It is true that it breaks the POV and slows the rythm but I thought that I needed to add another description of women bound and gagged in their underwear because there was too much exposition.
Story 2: I was very happy with the concept, but I forced myself to not use it in other stories.
Story 3: Not much else to say: the smoking break and the dumpster are an essential part of guards' stories
Story 4: I do not remember reading another example of bound guards arguing, but to me it felt the most natural thing to after being captured. I felt tempted to do a two-version story of the same event, but it felt repetitive. Maybe it works as a concept for a single story.
Story 5: I made the connection with story 4 while writing it, and I am very happy because I love it too! The stories were supposed to work in pairs (1 and 8 like mirrors, 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 to slowly advance the plot (2-3 are in reversed chronological order), and 6-7 like two parallel conclusions before the epilogue (that is why the number of victims escalates).
Story 6: Thanks!
Story 7: My first idea was to subver the chloroform trope with a redheaded guard, like it is hinted in story 2 (and in my story "A Study in Red"), because apparently redheads are actually more resistant to anesthesia, but then I thought it was do a double down and subvert the trope in a more explicit and cartoonish way.
Story 8: At first, I even considered to tell the whole story from the security camera's POV but it felt tiring, but I think it works better this way.
Thanks again!

Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:17 pm
by Torreken
esercito sconfitto wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:04 pm
Torreken, I am speechless... I don't remember anything like this from the times of the stories presented by Dave Dorc
You are always too kind, ES! Thanks a lot

Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:24 pm
by Torreken
meditions142 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:23 pm
Wow Torreken, this is an epic, epic story. I do love the way each story could stand alone but tell an overall story. And love that you, as you said, put in a lot of cliches and tropes.
As you probably know from my other posts, guards are my favorite victim/uniform donors. Given this, you know I had to enjoy this!
Amazing saga. Given the gasses of the trucks at the end it sounds like at least 100 women ended up being knocked out with more maybe not being knocked out but at least having their uniforms stolen.
As for all the classic scenes, they are all there. In no particular order I will mention some I really, really enjoyed.
I thought it was particular fun that even though the agents were there to stop the real infiltrators, they still had to knock out two guards and steal their uniforms. Love the idea of dropping the sleeping gas bomb into the camera room to put the women the women to sleep. Then the idea of the women being left tied up together.
Also loved the idea of the reception desk take out. The intruders had already taken out other women to get their uniforms and then used the uniforms to trick the guards. Then loved the idea of the guards being hidden under the desk. And of course great idea that guards showing up for the next guard shift end up walking into a trap and being chloroformed. And love the exchange with the two replacement guards when they woke up: " Good morning, sweeties, I hope you feel good after your little snooze. Now, just be quiet in there and things will remain civil. Otherwise I will have to punish you like I did to your friend’. The raven-haired criminal giddily said, pointing to Eva’s dishevelled panties and red ass-cheeks. The two security guards meekly nodded. ‘Good girls’, their captor concluded, before closing the cabinet’s door again.
Another fun scene was that the attackers used the vibrator on Patricia. Love how Patricia goes from being angry to twitching with pleasure when it is turned on.
Also fun was the way Carol and Claire decided to pass the time. And then they even brought Bella into the fun.
Also enjoyed Victoria basically knocking herself out.
Also great concept of the intruders taking advantage of the guards arriving for the party and knocking them out as they arrive. I particularly enjoyed envisioning Maddison and Helen walking in, freezing in shock and then getting neck pinches to knock them out. Also love to picture the piles of guards after they all had been taken out.
Just such an amazing story! Thanks for posting.
Thanks a lot for your kind words! I am very glad that you liked the story.
I love all the moments you mention too! I feel tempted to rank my own preference on the stories/tropes, but, to be honest, it changes over time. I was tempted to write another story between 7 and 8 to see the attack on the trucks from one of the guards' POV but I felt that it may be repetitive and the word count was already very high!
I am also happy to see that you like the more sexually charged scenes. I understand that it is not everyone's cup of tea, but it encourages me to keep writing them knowing that there is a shared interested on them.
Lastly: Is there a trope or cliche that you miss or that you think it could had been depicted differently?
Thanks again!
Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:51 pm
by meditions142
Torreken wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 1:24 pm
Thanks a lot for your kind words! I am very glad that you liked the story.
I love all the moments you mention too! I feel tempted to rank my own preference on the stories/tropes, but, to be honest, it changes over time. I was tempted to write another story between 7 and 8 to see the attack on the trucks from one of the guards' POV but I felt that it may be repetitive and the word count was already very high!
I am also happy to see that you like the more sexually charged scenes. I understand that it is not everyone's cup of tea, but it encourages me to keep writing them knowing that there is a shared interested on them.
Lastly: Is there a trope or cliche that you miss or that you think it could had been depicted differently?
Thanks again!
Regarding the more sexual scenes, I do agree that such scenes can sometimes be too much. However, here you handled them well. They were sexual but not over the top. As I said before, I really enjoyed the concept of the vibrator coming on randomly and sending the tied up guard into a fit of pleasure.
As for any missed trope or cliche, I really think you got them all. You got my favorite knockout technique, the nerve pinch and you had darts and gas which I also love. You had the trick of having to knock a victim out a second time and do something to keep her asleep a longer time which I love. You the hide the victim under the desk which is great and the use a uniform to trick and knock out other women. I believe you got them all!
Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:08 pm
by Torreken
Thanks a lot for the further commentary!
After giving some extra thought, maybe the "under the desk" victim is my favourite, although I really like two women bound together.
Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:59 pm
by andyv2k14
Great story as always. I do wish there'd been a bit more in-depth on the leader who got captured. Nothing better than an arrogant, powerful woman being captured and humiliated.
Re: Guards! Guards!
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:36 am
by Torreken
Thanks a lot! I thought that it was interesting to focus this time on the victims and leave the infiltrators in the background. This way, the readers and the guards share the sense of disconcert and confusion of not knowing exactly what it is going on until the end.
While thinking about this story I ruminated on the idea of showing the same incident from the perspective of the victim and the attacker, but I feared it may feel too repetitive. In any case, there will be the inevitable "rescue" story which will focus on Ursula and her team. I have already sketched a draft, but I have no idea when I will find the time to write it. Additionally, I would like to write another detective story about Brandy House before that, but, once again, I do not know when it will possible for me to do it.